Jan. 30th, 2017 12:33 pm
songscloset: Me with the sun flare on my face. (Default)
Phone job interview today in half an hour and wow, but I'm distracted by the political mayhem going on.


Okay, focus. I've gone over the skills I have that they're asking for, I'm looking at their website to see if there's anything I can find to ask about (other than things like contract conversion rates, which aren't appropriate to ask at this early stage), I've wrapped myself in knitting and blankets so I don't shiver audibly on the phone, I've finished a cup of coffee and had a good meal, one of my cats is snoozing in the room as a good-luck charm...

Well, poop

Jan. 23rd, 2017 07:03 pm
songscloset: Me with the sun flare on my face. (Default)
I didn't get the job I interviewed for on Wednesday. I thought I'd done pretty well - two of the three interviewers seemed to like me quite a bit. The hiring manager especially seemed to like me.

However, I got an email from the recruiter today that said I didn't get the job and had this feedback from the company.

1. The role being entry level and her desire to be in a lead or supervisory role within 6 month.
a. It is great to have goals and to be ambitious but it need to be realistic.
2. Not answering questions during the interview and interrupting the interviewers.
a. She was enthusiastic and excited to be here but it is concerning when candidates don’t allow interviewers to finish their statements or answer the question they were asked.

I am pleased that I got real feedback, but I'm a bit confused. I didn't say I wanted to be in a supervisory role in 6 months, that's much too fast. I don't want to be doing basic entry level tasks after a year or so, sure, and I know I said that.

I will admit I probably jumped the gun with some of the questions. That's something I can fix immediately.

However, the not answering questions? That one's bugging me. One of the questions I got was this: "Why did you choose to get a science degree?"

Um? Because I like science? A friend of mine says I should say things like, "It's always been my dream. Even as a small child I loved the idea of science."

Also, the same interviewer asked me how I work with people who are different from me. By doing my work and getting along with others. Seems basic to me, but yeah, I guess I've got to come up with an answer for this.


There were three interviewers. The first and second went well - very well, it seemed. The third interviewer was very different; she just didn't seem to like me. She's the one who asked both of the above questions, and she kept saying that the job is 100% boring repetitive tasks.

This was an entry level manufacturing job at a company which gets really bad marks on glassdoor. The complaints are all that there's no training and no management, that the entry level jobs are literally labeling tubes for 8 hours a day 5 days a week, with random unpaid overtime and no chance of movement.

The first two interviewers made a point of saying that there's a shiny new training program and that no one has to do repetitive tasks all the time, although there are points in the manufacturing cycle where that is the main task.

The third one asked me why, if all my experience is in research, I'm applying for manufacturing jobs. I said that research is all that's done in school and that all my experience is academic. And that I understand that manufacturing is vital and important - if we don't make the things to help people, there's no point in inventing the cures at all.

The third interviewer used to be in charge of the manufacturing department and recently changed departments - right before the new people create a training program. Any bets about what's going on in the management?

I'm frustrated with not getting the job, although it was just barely above my minimum pay and for a company that doesn't sound great. The coming management fight looks uncomfortable.

I mean, it would be nice to have gotten a job, but maybe it's okay to have missed out on this one.
songscloset: Me with the sun flare on my face. (Default)
So, I haven't been keeping up the daily records here, but I've been writing them out by hand. I think I should post them here and back date them, so I have a continuous record here. I like writing them out by hand and I have a nice little moleskine book with page-a-day space. It's supposed to be a To Do Diary sort of thing, but I find that unless I can see my whole week or month's schedule, I forget that something's due until the day it's due.

Which brings me to my car registration; I should have gotten the renewal form in the mail and haven't. I'll be going online and getting that done tonight, oh golly yes.

I got an email from a recruiter; one of the jobs he'd been talking to me about last year has decided they do want to interview me. The company gets pretty awful reviews on glassdoor, but they're paying over my minimum, the job is temp-to-hire, it's swing shift (which gives me mornings to spend doing creative things, or sleeping), and it's a job, which is really the thing I need. Without the first job, no matter how terrible, I can't get the second job, which will (one hopes) be better. Etc...

I'm hoping to get today's chapter of my fanfic finished early. I've got most of it thought through in my head, now I just need to get it out through my fingers. Then I can knit and hang out later tonight with Geordie.

Dammit, I forgot to get something out of the freezer for dinner. Argh.

I think that's it for now. Time to stop procrastinating.
songscloset: Me with the sun flare on my face. (Default)
Well. I've survived both the midterm and the job fair and I'm here to tell you: it's nicer on this side of both of them!

The test was hard, but I spent literally 5 hours before the test studying with several other students in the class. I think we all learned stuff - I know I did. I don't know yet how I did on the test, but I'm pretty sure I passed it.

The job fair was much better than I expected. I wore a new skirt and top with a bright red lightweight cardigan and Merrie did eye make up for me. (She was very pleased to be able to help!)

Anyway, I got there early and spent some time before the "Plenary Session" (FFS, why would they call it that? It was a presentation in which people who work in the company told us what it's like to work there and how to apply for jobs. I mean, sure, it was a meeting in which everyone who could attend, did so, but it's a pretty pretentious way to say general meeting, no?)

... right. So, before my Plenary Session started, I spent some time talking to employees manning the tables with information about the different departments. I learned stuff about the types of jobs available (LOTS of plumbing jobs, as would be expected, and lab jobs). I saw a couple of people from my school - which reminds me.

The reason I knew about this was because students and recent grads from my school were allowed to register early for the job fair. I immediately signed up - even if I'm not interested in working there, it's a possible job and honestly, it's practice for the whole Job Search process.

Anyway, I only saw two people from my school. I expected to see more - there are a LOT of kids in the biochem program and I know a lot of them. I was surprised that so few were there.

Then, the Plenary Session ... um, sessioned. We were told several times (more than once by each person who discussed specifics) that it is important to check one's grammar and spelling, and to answer the question asked, rather than wandering off on tangents.

The six Sample Employees talked about What They Like About Working At EBMUD and How They Got Hired and What They Do For/At EBMUD ... it was amusing and interesting and I did learn things about my water company.

One woman is a Wastewater Operations Supervisor; she discussed wastewater treatment, recycled water programs, and mentioned that they're dealing with more food waste than they had been before. During the Q&A bit, a couple of people asked questions about benefits and stuff, but I asked if 'recycled water' is 'grey water' and if so, how they connect the systems and what sort of uses they have for the water ...

The woman who'd mentioned it looked at me and I could see the moment she shifted from General Polite Interest to Focused Attention - her whole *self* sharpened suddenly and she answered half the question and handed the other half off to someone who had more complete information. I thanked them and considered my question answered.

After the Plenary Session, the group separated into three groups - Veterans, The Trades, and Admin/Professional, for more job-type specific information about the application process.

You'll note the divisions, yes? Now, I'm not a Veteran (they're a separate group because they have different application specifics), and I'm not a Trade (plumbing, machinist stuff, vehicular stuff). However, what does Administration/Professional mean to you?

It includes Laboratory and Engineering - in the 'Professional' heading - but it's not obvious (to me) that it does. If the heading had been Admin/Engineering, that would have been clearer, but 'Professional' is ... less clear.

Anyway, I trotted off to my group meeting. I seemed to be the only one who was there NOT for admin work. The whole meeting - an HOUR or more - was about exactly what sort of admin stuff they could expect to be doing and what sorts of admin jobs there are in the company and then, oh god, a series of screen shots of the application process.

After that was all done, I mentioned to the HR woman that the Admin/Professional pairing is a bit odd and confusing (it's the first time they've done this and she specifically said she wanted feedback about the process and set up, so I gave it to her. There were other things I could have mentioned, but I stopped there.)

While I was talking to her, I noticed that the woman I'd asked the question of in the Plenary Session had come into the room and was standing nearby. I assumed she wanted to talk to her co-worker, so I stepped away from them and ... the Wastewater Operations Supervisor squared up to me, grinned broadly and said, "So, what job are YOU here for?"

I goggled for a heartbeat, then introduced myself and said that I'm here for a job in a lab. She lit up, declared that Wastewater Processing has a lab, gave me her *personal* work number and her hours and told me to call and she'd get me a tour of the lab and the plant.

I, uh. I seem to have become visible. I'm going to update my LinkedIn Profile and call her. I'm kind of excited about it. I mean, what fun, right?

Then I came home, changed my clothes, and Geordie and I went out for a nice salad dinner.

Today we've been out looking at cats at the local pounds - Geordie calls them Kitty Prison.

I've finished a couple of pairs of knitted mitts, I have two sweaters I'm working on, and honestly, all I want to do is just knit, draw, and write.

I have to write a lab report for one of my classes and find something I wrote in another class so I can type it up to post online for that class.


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